Some of the accounts are just mirrors (for now), some of them have boosts so they must have a human input there.
But the big thing is they have set up their own instances of Mastodon and PeerTube. This is a big thing, it shows that a massive official body not only knows about the Fediverse but is trying it out.
I think we should engage with it constructively, so they can see the Fedi as a viable alternative way forward, instead of corporates like Facebook, Twitter etc.
who owns the data is key: why can’t this be citizen owned?
The server is citizen owned, it's owned by the EU, which is in turn owned by the elected governments of the member states.
The only data on a Mastodon server is its own users posts and whatever posts outsiders share with them. In this case it would just be a few EU civil servants' Masto logins etc.
@hans I want the data and infrastructure to be COMMUNITY owned, not corporate owned, or unelected entity owned
I think you might be misunderstanding what they're doing?
The EU aren't setting up a public server, it's just their own office server for publishing official info. There is no personal data being handled.
It means anyone can follow the EU account from elsewhere on Mastodon, without any of their personal data going to the EU.
Previously you would have had to sign up on Facebook or Twitter to follow their official social media accounts.
@NotThatKier @FediFollows @goofy @EU_Commission I think you have to explain what you mean with your definition of citizen owned here. Do you want EU money to pay for a server where citizens can make an account?
*to me as an EU citizen: this is a news and information service run by one of our elected bodies in accordance to EU data and privacy laws. As an EU citizen I own 1 out of 447millionth of both hardware, software and data. That's all.
@NotThatKier EU has been supporting Ukraine since the start of the war (although one could argue about the extent of the support), what's so shocking?
@wiredfire @bugbear as a cyber security engineer, evangelist and - dare I say it - ‘expert’ in the field with over 20 years experience - I’m perfectly capable of being concerned about Surveillance Capitalism and the user privacy, decentralisation, e2e encryption and not trusting other peoples servers
@NotThatKier , the reason I called your posts troll-like is because you’ve entered a conversation about one thing & tried to start an argument about something that’s an entirely different matter. That’s page 1 from the Birdsite Troll Handbook.
You are absolutely welcome to hold your views and to voice them but starting a new conversation with a post of your own is the way to do that.
@bugbear don’t rise to their snark.
@wiredfire @bugbear I take your point: the EU server has a Ukrainian flag on it and I object to the politics of this. Yes, excellent it has a mastodon server at all. No, not excellent that it’s currently conducting some pretty unpalatable geo politics. Additionally, I misunderstood that it was only beaconing it’s own content and not ‘hosting’ a user joinable pod - my mistake - but the point about ownership of data and being community owned is an important one.
@wiredfire @bugbear this isn’t the crime you’re asserting it is. People don’t need to respond. It’s that simple. It’s not ‘a crime’ to comment unless literally hate speech. ‘Policing’ threads seems overly pedantic and unnecessary - threads go where they must and that’s that. Yes, a new thread-topic would work but who’s got time for that?
@wiredfire @bugbear it’s a perfectly anti racist, progressive, anti neoliberal critique of the EU: I do not believe the EU is institutionally able to support the working class and does indeed favour international corporations. This is completely irrelevant to my concern that, once again, we might be substituting Big Tech for EU centralised tech. Neither are democratically accountable.
@bugbear the EU needs to be supporting initiatives for a peaceful resolution to the conflict - not fuelling it by supplying arms. Ukrainian violence against ethnic Russians since 2014 seems to have been mostly absent from the agenda. Why’s that, I wonder?
@NotThatKier they are not "fueling the conflict by supplying firearms", they are helping a country attacked by another.
source on your claims? it's interesting that Russia hasn't been able to produce any proof to their claims, even when invited to do so.
@bugbear honestly, you’re not looking very hard are you? https://twitter.com/jonathan_k_cook/status/1519710072821141509?s=21&t=4NxctGnSV8730QcKOabz7Q
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