oh no it's a lgbtq+ discourse 

I really don't like the nature-vs-nurture arguments. (Are gay/trans/whatever people "born that way"? Can people choose to be x? Can we accidentally make people x?) They descend too quickly into obtuse eggheadery about determinism and *miss the point*: being what i am is Good, Actually and whether or not i had any say in the matter, i'd totally choose it if i could because it's dope af

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oh no it's a lgbtq+ discourse 

So many lgbtq ppl - ok, baby gays - lend weight to these dumbass arguments by trying to meet them on their own level when they should be dismissing the premise entirely. Who cares if lgbtq acceptance will make people gay? That'd be great!

re: oh no it's a lgbtq+ discourse + christianity 

@alexisvl imho "it's biological determinism, it's not my fault" is rooted in a reaction to Christian morality which considers queerness to be inherently sinful.

for many, it is easier within that moral framework to say "I didn't actually choose this, it's inherent and thus consistent with the rest of our faith's inherent sin" because the alternative is to either question doctrine or admit to choosing to sin

(I am not Christian.)

re: oh no it's a lgbtq+ discourse + christianity 

@ehashman I really wish more of us would stop perpetuating that and try "hey being queer is great, you should try it"

re: oh no it's a lgbtq+ discourse + religion 

@alexisvl I got in a weird argument on hellsite because someone claimed that I "chose" to be Jewish (and hence... I deserve to experience religious discrimination?? or something) but I didn't "choose" to be queer and like... actually it's interesting that you made that comparison because I actively choose both!!!

re: oh no it's a lgbtq+ discourse + religion 

@ehashman fuckin hellsite

re: oh no it's a lgbtq+ discourse + religion 

@alexisvl how very Interesting that a white enby secular non-practicing Jewish person with a non-obvious Jewish name would claim I, woman with a very obvious Jewish name that I was born with, *choose* to experience antisemitism, but I somehow don't choose to experience homophobia, despite spending years as a closeted bi 🤔​​​​

re: oh no it's a lgbtq+ discourse + religion 

@alexisvl hid my Judaism for years, hid my queerness for years, I'm fuckin done and I'm so much happier, even if I have to eat blowback. Queerness is Good, Actually

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