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#Kbin update:

- The kbin.social server is now federating with the Fediverse. You can follow/interact with kbin.social magazines & users from other Kbin servers, Mastodon & rest of the Fediverse. For example the TIL magazine is at @TodayILearned, the lead dev of Kbin is at @ernest

- There's a new Kbin server at readit.buzz which is run by the same people as the Universodon.com Mastodon server. It's open for signups, just click "log in" and then "register".

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elkaki

@feditips @ernest

I have a few questions in case anyone could answer, how does the federation work? If I go there through mastodon am I limited to commenting or can I upvote/downvote?

Lastly: how can I follow the instance or specific magazines?
In case it's relevant, I'm using fedilab so it allows me to follow multiple timelines, but I've been trying to follow kbin.social/m/PCGaming
And I just don't understand how to do it

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@feditips @ernest

I forgot, one more thing, about magazines

When you make an account on a magazine (I suppose that's how it works since they are instances), will all your posts appear on that magazine timeline? Or do you have to consciously send it there? And are you completely restricted to that magazine's rules even if you send messages to other instances?

I know it's a lot of questions, feel free to answer only one (or zero 😅) this is just everything I don't get for now

@elkaki You can only upvote with Mastodon (with the star), not downvote. With Friendica and Hubzilla you can also downvote (but I've never done this, only as a test).

You would have to copy the URL of the magazine/community into the search field on Mastodon, then you can follow it, etc. It also works with all other URLs (also posts) from the ActivityPub-Fediverse (also Peertube videos and channels that you find via #sepiaserach for example).
@feditips @ernest

@caos @feditips @ernest

Thanks for answering, on regards to the second part, am I following the magazine as if it were an account?

Also it doesn't show any posts, although that might be a temporary problem or because of the app, I will try to see it through the web later.

@elkaki Exactly, follow as normal.
The posts are probably not all federated with your instance yet, but the future ones should come in. You can also copy and paste post URLs.

@feditips @ernest

@elkaki @caos @ernest

Yeah, the upvotes from stars/favourites is how PeerTube handles federation with Mastodon too (so there's no downvoting option if you're using Mastodon).

The group will appear blank if no one on your server has followed it before or shared any of its posts. Once one person on your server follows the group, posts to the group from that moment onwards will start being visible to everyone on your server. (But posts made before that moment will not be.)

@feditips @elkaki Yes, and the ones that have emoji reactions (like Misskey, Akkoma, etc.) may all arrive as upvotes, even if it is a negative emoji like 👎 or 🙀
@ernest

@caos @elkaki @ernest

Interesting... I guess the emoji reactions aren't categorised so it has trouble interpreting them.

@feditips I'm not sure yet whether they arrive, I haven't been able to test it with regard to kbin. But the emoji reactions are otherwise interpreted as favourites by all those who don't have emoji reactions. @elkaki @ernest

@feditips @elkaki @caos @ernest I'm not sure it works. I can follow Lemmy communities and get their posts (the comments at least), but kbin magazines remain blank even after new things are posted.

@feditips @elkaki @caos @ernest hmm, I have been following @RPG for a few days now and it doesn't seem to show anything. I boosted one thread I created with my kbin account and that showed up, but the magazine still appears empty

@elkaki@mastodon.online @feditips@mstdn.social @ernest@kbin.social

Kbin doesn’t have a public timeline like Mastodon does. Everything is part of a Magazine or Group which Mastodon doesn’t have. It’s a very different model from microblogging.

For example, from a kbin account while logged in to kbin, a person could have tons of content they want to see by subscribing to magazines without ever subscribing to a user account.

Fedilab, from what little I understand, doesn’t actually “follow” an instance in the strictest sense. It basically “looks” at the other instance’s public, local timeline similar to what you would see from a browser that opened up the site (without being logged in to that site) and pulls from there.

While kbin will show you content if you open the site in a browser, that’s not a “public timeline” like Mastodon’s.

Upvotes are actually not specifically defined in Activity Pub. Kbin and Lemmy use “Likes/Favorites/Stars” on a thread/post for upvotes. Downvotes don’t exist at all in the specification so Mastodon and other platforms can’t understand them at all.