@indirection I presume the 3-hour debate was about whether people would perceive a difference between options 3 and 4.
@GrassrootsReview Actually you may be surprised that the answer is no!
My view was point 3. His view was point 1 (with the understanding that the result is still important, but *not as important*).
He's coming from a very behavioral/psychological understanding/background. He argued that generally, specifically for colouring books (we argued for other things but noticed other nuances when talking about different activities), the process is why people do them.
(To be continued...)
@GrassrootsReview The instant thought though is yes, everyone buys them "for the experience of colouring", but if you stop to think for a moment, it's more than just the colouring.
I brought up: what if you had a book of every possibility of what the final coloured page will look like, and showed them where they'd end up? Would they keep colouring?
What I gave them a black marker, would they still like the process if the result was all black?
@GrassrootsReview So I think with a bit of creative thinking we can at least establish this: people colour because they result does matter.
So my friend agreed that yes, the result is important, but the process is "the greater reason" for the colouring.
I can't agree, because how do you even measure this?
But then my friend's partner chimed in: some people will feel both ways, or in-between! And I agree with them, because they account for all 3 circumstances, but my friend still disagrees.
@GrassrootsReview The original argument was "they colour for the therapy, not the result", but it's vague because "what is therapy"? Well it's some process. And therapy requires *some* result too. Otherwise no one would find it therapeutic!
In this case therapeutic activity is colouring.
But what about chopping wood? He said he does it for the process and doesn't care about the result (chopped wood). I told him: then why not just chop into the ground? Why not just hit a nail with a hammer?
@GrassrootsReview Eventually this led me to saying he probably does it because of both: the process and result; i.e. the exercise and the chopped wood which *someone* can use.
I say this because he couldn't tell me why he liked chopping wood. 😛
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