disabled wifi on the new samsung fridge (just unplugged this guy, lucky guess). can’t figure out the stove cuz there’s no access panel that i can see on the back of the stove. i fucking hate living in the future

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@swaggboi I really want a "dumb" appliance store. My fridge should keep things cold, my toaster warm things up, my printer put ink on thin slices of dead tree, and my TV show whatever video stream I send it. None of these need to reach out over the network. Please sell me well made, well functioning, single use devices, that serve their purpose well.

@pseudonym @swaggboi Regarding TVs, I went with a projector. Love the aesthetic! Its like being at a cinema!

Plus its got that benefit of only showing the images I send it through a VGA cable from my computer! No Internet required!

@alcinnz @swaggboi Good point. Considered that for my next TV, but I tend to ride things down the tech curve until they break, so possibly not for a while

@pseudonym @swaggboi Indeed, "dumb" devices can be the smartest devices! If I want to use a zigbee plug controller to turn on or off a dehumidifier, the dehumidifier had better not need me to poke an "on" button every time it's connected to power.

As to more complexity, sure, but give me an interface I can customise. I want a documented way to tell my washer/drier when to start, pause, stop using a microcontroller of my own (to optimise solar power use), instead of shelling out a fortune for some wifi enabled crap that'll break in a day.

#Solarpunk is appliances that default to simple and maintainable, but optionally go all the way up

@seachaint

Regarding machines that are turned on for a single "cycle" (like dishwashers): the way I schedule my dishwasher with a mechanical sequencer is that I switch the power off, set the sequencer in the "start" position and cause power to be reapplied at the time I want it to start. This suggests that another desirable property is that the state of the device is preserved across power failures.

BTW. "Cycle complete" notifications can be had by observing power draw. I haven't implemented that for my dishwasher, but am pretty sure it would be reliable (mostly due to the heater used for drying at the end).

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@pseudonym @swaggboi My coffee machine has a port where a separately sold wifi module can be installed. I have no idea why anyone would want it, but at least I'm not being made to pay for something I don't need.

@mansr @swaggboi so it can send error code 418, "I'm a tea pot" (real http error code)

@pseudonym@mastodon.online no kidding, TV collects so much telemetry data it's disgusting.

@swaggboi

Have you ever shopped Lehmans? Per my exceedingly-dated Whole Earth Catalogs say this is where the Amish shop for their appliances (I reckon they use the paper catalog)

lehmans.com/

@pseudonym @swaggboi In my area we have a "dumb" appliance store, it's the Habitat for Humanity ReStore.

Want a built-like-a-tank 1970s range, or an immortal 1990s microwave big enough to cook a turkey? They got you.

Only issue is they don't deliver… but I do like that place.

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