So, I'm back at "where should I move this account?"
I thought Akkomane was the answer, unfortunately, it was not.
There wasn't any one deal breaker, but a few tiny ones that added up.
Namely: it doesn't work with Bridgy Fed, Thumbnails didn't appear when I shared links for some reason, and also it doesn't seem to be able to communicate with Wordpress sites that have the ActivityPub plugin.
So, I'm back to square one.
As a reminder: I want to leave Firefish for two reasons:
1. It's dead. While it's still working great, it will not receive anymore updates ever.
2. Its API doesn't work with many apps (I'd love to be able to use this account with Surf or OpenVibe and such, and I can't)
Part of me thinks about merging this account with my Mastodon account, but I don't know. I like having two accounts talking roughly about different things (even if the limit is somewhat porous).
Another Mastodon account? I'd like to have this account not on Mastodon, basically.
Misskey and forks? (Firefish being one.) Maybe, but after having used Firefish for about two years, I think those are great if you're a community on the same server (i.e. most people on the same server know and follow each other), otherwise, there are too many functions I end up never using. Also, the problem with the API is the same as with Firefish, I believe.
The new IceShrimp (the dot NET one): I'd love to try it, but it's still in beta (anyone knows of a server where I can see what it looks like?)
Something else?
GoToSocial? I admit I'm not too familiar with it. Is there a way to try it without having to install everything on a server and such?
What I'd like is something that allows long posts like this one (I can be talkative and threads of posts are annoying).
Something using Mastodon API so that it is compatible with most apps.
Something that can communicate well with all or most of the Fediverse (including Bridgy Fed, Wordpress ActivityPub, etc.)
(ideally, a server where I know and trust the admin, but that's only in an ideal world)
Any idea I may not be aware of (note that my technical skills are somewhat limited, and no, I can't install something myself on a machine or a server)
#Fediverse #Firefish #Mastodon #IceShrimp
#firefish
Mastodon-Client-API
Auch wenn sich im #Fediverse viel um #ActivityPub dreht und hier durchaus auch eine #Client-Schnittstelle skizziert ist, nutzt #Mastodon eine eigene Client-API, die (zumindest teilweise) auch von anderer fediversaler Serversoftware unterstützt wird (z.B. #Friendica, #Firefish, #Mammuthus).
Diese #API (application programming interface, eine #Schnittstelle zur #Programmierung von Anwendungen) dient Apps und Clients dazu, entsprechende Funktionen auf einer #Instanz durchzuführen. Diese API ermöglicht die Entwicklung von Apps wie #Tusky, #Fedilab & Co.
Man kann diese API auch nutzen, um Konten etwa (teil)automatisiert zu betreiben.
Oder Statistiken zu sammeln... oder... oder... ;-)
Die API ist soweit öffentlich dokumentiert und steht frei zur Verfügung.
Allgemeine Dokumentation zu #Mastodon (auf Englisch):
https://docs.joinmastodon.org/
"Getting started with the API":
https://docs.joinmastodon.org/client/intro/
Wer mit dem Gedanken spielt, die API zu nutzen, sollte sich mit #HTTP, #JSON & Co. anfreunden können. Und Englischkenntnisse sind in diesem Bereich grundsätzlich von Vorteil...
Du schreibst immer mal wieder Posts, die du zu einem Thread zusammenfügen fügen musst, weil sie mehr als 500 Zeichen haben (was definitiv nicht schön aussieht in der TL) und auf der Suche nach einer guten Alternative dazu?
Dann probiere doch mal eine andere #Fediverse #Plattform aus.
Hier pflege ich eine Liste mit offenen Instanzen, wo man mindestens 3000 Zeichen schreiben kann.
https://contentnation.net/de/favstarmafia/sharkey
Außerdem kann man zum Beispiel mit #Sharkey Accountlisten verwenden, ohne dass man dazu den Accounts folgen muss.
Falls dir diese neue Sicht auf das Fediverse gefällt, dann kannst du sogar deinen Mastodon Account dorthin umziehen.
Was musst du machen, um das mal auszuprobieren
1. Such dir eine Instanz aus, die dir gefallen könnte.
2. Lege dort einen Account an.
3. Exportiere (/settings/export) dein "Folge ich" Accounts in eine CSV Datei.
4. Importiere (/settings/import-export) die Datei in deinen neuen Account unter "Gefolgte Benutzer Import".
5. Viel Spaß beim Ausprobieren!
Eine Einführung in die neue Plattform findest du hier.
#Calckey #Firefish #Sharkey #Iceshrimp
@asmw Afaik, no... unfortunately. It's a pity, & a feature i miss in Masto+GlitchSoc, compared to #Friendica, #Firefish [RIP], & apparently all the #Misskey family.
@elbuga tem um outro software que funciona dentro do fediverso que tem algumas dessas funcionalidades. ele tem vários forks, já vi com os nomes #calckey #misskey #cities #firefish
captura algumas dessas coisas, como comunidades, se não me engano tem grupos também, enquetes com um monte de opção, dá pra reagir com qualquer emoji. tem um monte de coisa que o Mastodon não tem.
Juten Morjen beste Timeline im #FireFish Netzwerk
Da ist er nun endlich, wir haben lange drauf warten müssen.
Und selbst dann, stimmt die Beschreibung nicht wirklich.
FreiTag und ich habe gar kein Frei, das ist schon so ein wenig verarsche, oder?
Kommt gut über den tag, bis wir wirklich Frei haben
From #Foundkey (if I remember about how mkab survived a lot of problems by working with @puniko@mk.absturztau.be to transition to #firefish), #Calckey, #Iceshrimp and now #Sharkey.
RE: https://transfem.social/notes/a50tzz2tyltx00he
Whalebird v6.2.1
=> https://whalebird.social
Whalebird is a Fediverse client app for desktop.
An Electron based Mastodon, Pleroma, and Misskey client for Windows, Mac, and Linux
Feature
- An interface like slack
- Notify to desktop
- Streaming
- Many keyboard shortcuts
- Manage multiple accounts
Changelog:
=> https://github.com/h3poteto/whalebird-desktop/releases/tag/v6.2.1
#Fediverse #Mastodon #Pleroma #Friendica #Firefish #Gotosocial
#Firefish has been updated. Was just there using and it. Either crashed or the moderators are heavy-handed. Don't know or care which...
Not yet good enough.
So anyway, here is something for the #Magick people here...
Believe in better, not the disinformation, small-minded, Automatic responders...
Believe in Tux
https://peace.fandom.com/wiki/Peace_penguins
@EmpeRohr@mastodon.world ohhh, ich habe mein Herz an #FireFish verloren 
Trotz aller Probleme
Morjen
@crossgolf_rebel Guten morgen aus dem #firefish
Glad to see I'm not the only one that lost all metrics when migrating from #Firefish to #Sharkey. This is quite sad actually. One of my instances has close to 2000 active users and none of them are represented anywhere on any #Fedi #metrics or #statistics because metrics are completely hosed and b0rked on Sharkey.
AUFRUF
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Ich möchte gerne ein möglichst vollständige Matrix der Features der Fediversesoftwaren erstellen, an prominenter Stelle für alle Interessierten zur Verfügung stellen und Neueinsteigern die Wahl der zu ihren Bedürfnissen passenden Fediversesoftware erleichtern.
Also - wer eine der unten gelisteten SWs kennt, benutzt oder entwickelt und 15 Minuten Lebenszeit erübrigen kann, möge sich bitte bei @LasseGismo melden um das Projekt zu unterstützen.
Ich werde einen Cryptpadlink zur Verfügung stellen um die Änderungen/Ergänzungen direkt in die Tabelle einzutragen.
Wer zudem der Ansicht ist, daß eine Software fehlt und dazu inhaltlich beitragen will, ist natürlich gerne eingeladen sich zu melden.
Hier der Link zur Vorlage, mit Dank an Chris.
Fediversefeature-Matrix-DE.xlsx
https://lassegismo.dnsuser.info/nextcloud/s/MNLcHQMyEDQdRTG
Boosts sind natürlich sehr willkommen.
Ich danke für Eure Zeit - nur gemeinsam sind wir stark.
CALL
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I would like to create, as complete as possible, a matrix with the features of each Fediverse software, make it available in a prominent place for all interested parties and make it easier for newcomers to choose the Fediverse software that suits their needs.
So - if you know, use or develop one of the SWs listed below and can spare 15 minutes of your life, please contact @LasseGismo to support the project.
I will provide a cryptpad link to enter the changes/additions directly into the table.
If you also think that a software is missing and want to contribute to the content, you are of course welcome to contact me.
Here is the link to the template, with thanks to Chris.
Fediversefeature-Matrix-EN.xlsx
https://lassegismo.dnsuser.info/nextcloud/s/XeH8X3bPfPJHdMx
Boosts are of course very welcome.
Thank you for your time - only together we are strong.
@crossgolf_rebel @PaulaToThePeople
@chris
#FediHelp #FollowerPower
#Akkoma #BookWyrm #Castopod #Diaspora #Firefish #Friendica #Funkwhale #Gancio #GNUSocial #GoToSocial #Hubzilla #kbin #Lemmy #Mastodon #Misskey #Mobilizon #Nextcloud #PeerTube #Pixelfed #Pleroma #Socialhome #Streams #WriteFreely #Wordpress
@RexSal@hachyderm.io Hello and welcome to the #Fediverse
You got into something much bigger and you're not in mastodon. This is only your frontend into the Fediverse, not mine. 
depending on which frontend you use, your Fediverse looks similar to Insta, a blog, Facebook, Twitter etc.
Greetings with #Calckey #Firefish, which is also much more convenient 
I can give permission to quote-post my posts to
- everyone in the Fediverse
- everyone on Hubzilla and (streams)
- everyone on this hub
- approved and unapproved connections
- only approved connections
- only those of my connections whom I explicitly give permission by contact role
- nobody but myself
Over on (streams), I can still give that permission to
- everyone in the Fediverse
- all my connections
- only myself + specific connections whom I grant that permission either by permission role or by individual connection settings
It's much more a matter of technology.
Mastodon is about to completely re-invent the wheel with a non-standard, Mastodon-only setting. This setting will only work within Mastodon simply because it probably won't even be documented anywhere, especially not before it's officially rolled out.
There simply is no way that every last instance of Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp, CherryPick, Catodon, Meisskey, Tanukey, Neko, dozens of other Misskey forks, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte etc. etc. will have that setting implemented before Mastodon rolls it out so that even the users on mastodon.social are perfectly safe from the first second on.
Besides, @Mike Macgirvin
, creator of Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte and still the only maintainer of the latter two, will never introduce proprietary Mastodon features to them. He'd rather risk (streams) and Forte becoming incompatible with Mastodon. The same goes for @Mario Vavti and @Harald Eilertsen, Hubzilla's main maintainers.If Mastodon wants to become a perfectly safe haven against unallowed quote-posting, it has only got one choice: It must introduce something like (streams)' and Forte's user agent filter and use it to block just everything that isn't Mastodon. Like, include a hard-coded allowlist that only includes Mastodon plus what little can't quote or quote-post anyway.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Calckey #Firefish #Iceshrimp #CherryPick #Sharkey #Catodon #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate
Mastodon may not have quote-posts yet. But the Fediverse has quote-posts right now. And it has had them since before Mastodon was made.
Pleroma, Akkoma, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp, CherryPick, Catodon, Meisskey, Tanukey, Neko, dozens of other Misskey forks, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams), Forte etc. etc., they all have quote-posts. They're all fully capable of quote-posting any Mastodon toot.
None of them has introduced quote-posts to harass Twitter refugees on Mastodon. At least Friendica and Hubzilla have had quote-posts since long before Mastodon was even made.
You will be able to choose whether your posts can be quoted at all.
At least by Mastodon users.
But since this will be Mastodon re-inventing the wheel with brand-new, proprietary, Mastodon-only technology, everything I've listed above will still be able to quote-post anyone and anything on Mastodon with zero resistance.
To quote-post myself and the guy who invented Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte:
Jupiter Rowland schrieb den folgenden Beitrag Sat, 20 Jul 2024 01:29:11 +0200 I think I've just chased someone out of the Fediverse.
That someone was afraid of Mastodon being "screwed over" by becoming quote-post-able.
I've told him the truth: Mastodon has been quote-post-able for as long as it has been around. Mastodon became quote-post-able the very moment it was launched.
That's because when Mastodon was launched, it immediately federated with Friendica which is from 2010, which had been around for almost six years at that point, and which has had quote-posts from its own inception AFAIK. Mastodon also immediately federated with Hubzilla which has had quote-posts since its own inception, since it had been forked from Friendica, and that was in 2012.
Mastodon has never been un-quote-post-able.
Right now, there are dozens of Fediverse server apps whose users can quote-post Mastodon toots with no resistance.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate
Mike Macgirvin
schrieb den folgenden Beitrag Sat, 20 Jul 2024 03:18:39 +0200 The closest you'll ever get to making Mastodon un-quote-postable is to post privately. Not unlisted. Private. Most fediverse software will honour this today; and it doesn't require yet another "pretend permission". Like unlisted. And Mike should know. He brought things to the Fediverse like actually working permissions. Including permissions on two levels to quote-post any content on a channel. Readily available right now at least on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte.
Also, this is what people on Friendica and its descendants have been using quote-posts for since 2010.
You will be notified when someone quotes you.
You already are when someone on Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) or Forte quote-posts one of your posts.
As for Pleroma, Misskey and their forks, you aren't notified right now, and I've got my doubts that you will be after this change.
Also, "quote" and "quote-post" are two different things. Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte can do both. "Quote" is what I'm doing right here. Whether or not you're notified depends on whether or not you're mentioned.
And blocking quotes is even less possible. A quote only consists of a pair of BBcode tags plus the quoted text in-between. And on Friendica and all its descendants, you don't work with a WYSIWYG editor by default, but you have to get your hands dirty on raw markup code.
You will be able to withdraw your post from the quoted context at any time.
Again, probably not if someone on Pleroma, Misskey or one of their forks quote-posts you.
And definitely not if someone on Friendica or one of its descendants quote-posts you.
The difference is that a quote-post on Pleroma, Misskey or one of their forks is actually a reference to the original. On Friendica and its descendants, a quote-post is an automatically generated dumb copy of the original.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Pleroma #Akkoma #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Calckey #Firefish #Iceshrimp #CherryPick #Sharkey #Catodon #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Forte #QuotePost #QuotePosts #QuoteTweet #QuoteTweets #QuoteToot #QuoteToots #QuoteBoost #QuoteBoosts #QuotedShares #QuotePostDebate #QuoteTootDebate
(Fr) Est ce que dans tout le panel de logiciels qui font le fediverse il y en a un qui permet d'utiliser son nom de domaine ? Comme bluesky le fait.
(En) Is there a fediverse software that allows you to use your domain name? Like bluesky does.
https://bsky.social/about/blog/4-28-2023-domain-handle-tutorial
Seph 
@Mercy is now Mercy Again- Calckey is deader than dead. It was forked into Firefish in 2023. Only few instances are still alive because their admins refused to move them to Firefish, and their numbers are dwindling further.
- Firefish itself is dead. Official support and development ended on New Year's Eve. This month, the official server with the code repository and the lighthouse instance is scheduled to be shut down.
- Sharkey is the most feature-rich. But first of all, its Mastodon client API implementation is said to be notoriously horrible. It seems to be difficult to connect it to a Mastodon app. Its developers are kind of shady; ask @Linux Is Best a.k.a. @Linux Is Best. Lastly, Sharkey's development is cosying up to Mastodon; the goal is to make it more like Mastodon. Not everyone likes that.
- CherryPick is sometimes recommended. But it's a Japanese project just like Misskey itself, and AFAIK, except for one instance in the USA, all CherryPick instances are hosted in the greater Tokyo and Seoul areas.
- A more common recommendation is Iceshrimp, and it seems to have the brightest future. It will soon no longer be a Misskey fork. It's currently being re-written from scratch in C# which appears to be the best way to get rid of the many issues that all Forkeys have inherited from Misskey. Its only "disadvantages" may be fewer features than Sharkey (but still more than Misskey) and its coming reliance on "Microsoft technology".
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Misskey #Forkey #Forkeys #Calckey #Firefish #Sharkey #CherryPick #Iceshrimp #Iceshrimp.NET