David<p>A question for folks familiar with <a href="https://mstdn.games/tags/SecureScuttlebutt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SecureScuttlebutt</span></a> :</p><p>How does joining a pub affect the visibility of my posts?</p><p>Let's say I have a friend that I follow on ssb already, and I want to sync with them over the internet. If we each join the same pub, do other members of that pub who don't follow me get to see my posts? Are there other variables at play here that I should be aware of? Thanks!</p><p>:boost_love: <a href="https://mstdn.games/tags/boostsWelcome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>boostsWelcome</span></a></p>
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Preston Maness ☭<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://sunbeam.city/@zelf" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>zelf</span></a></span> >This study explores the development and implementation of Peer-for-Peer (P4P) networks, a family of open-source, peer-to-peer, and local-first communication protocols. Rooted in the principles of complexity theory and an ontological basis in complex realism, the research examines how small, modular, and community-driven infrastructures can serve as adaptive solutions in response to ecological, social, and technological crises. Through a mixed-methods approach, including interviews with nine case studies and an in-person workshop, the study identifies design principles that enable resilience and sustainability in P4P ecosystems. Findings highlight the critical role of modularity—both technical and social—in fostering self-organization, adaptability, and mutual aid within decentralized networks. The study also introduces the concept of "nested isomorphism," revealing how the structural patterns of technical systems influence the organizational structures that develop them. P4P protocols, such as Willow, Mapeo, and Scuttlebutt, demonstrate the viability of localized and distributed communication infrastructures that prioritize user agency and digital sovereignty. These systems challenge the colonial structures of global internet infrastructure by empowering communities to build and maintain their own resilient networks. This research contributes to complexity theory by expanding the understanding of self-organizing systems and isomorphic tendencies of technical and organizational structures. The research presents a framework for designing future communication infrastructures that align with principles of sustainability and inclusivity. The implications of these findings extend to the fields of open-source development, decentralized networks, and adaptive infrastructure design, offering pathways toward a more equitable and resilient digital future.</p><p>Well shit! That sounds really interesting!</p><p><a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/SecureScuttleButt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SecureScuttleButt</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/SSB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SSB</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>decentralization</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/torrent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>torrent</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/p2p" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>p2p</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/federation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>federation</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>foss</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/meshnet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>meshnet</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/meshtastic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>meshtastic</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/lora" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>lora</span></a> <a href="https://tenforward.social/tags/iot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>iot</span></a></p>
sharc<p>I'm trying out the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/manyverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>manyverse</span></a> based on <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/securescuttlebutt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>securescuttlebutt</span></a><br>1. Yeaaaah... if your friends don't have it, you gotta search hard to find anyone. Btw please write you bio at least so that I'm not scared to connect with you xd<br>2. It should REALLY allow to just search through the network and start with proposing contacts. Otherwise, the entry point is SOOOO DAMN high. Rn the app is unusable because I can't find a legit person.</p><p>BUT I will encourage my friends to try <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/manyverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>manyverse</span></a> and use it as intended xd</p>
SoapDog<p>After Zuck & Friends recent hatespeech, I guess it is time to put even more efforts into <a href="https://toot.cafe/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>decentralization</span></a> </p><p>Pity I dislike how expensive and chatty <a href="https://toot.cafe/tags/activitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>activitypub</span></a> protocol is. Maybe it is time for me to get back into some <a href="https://toot.cafe/tags/SecureScuttlebutt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SecureScuttlebutt</span></a> <a href="https://toot.cafe/tags/SSB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SSB</span></a> development.</p>
Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️<p>I'm curious, is there a strong <a href="https://433.world/tags/SecureScuttlebutt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SecureScuttlebutt</span></a>¹ community in <a href="https://433.world/tags/Czechia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Czechia</span></a>?<br>or for that matter, is there a strong <a href="https://433.world/tags/SSB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SSB</span></a> community like, anywhere?</p><p>because ideologically speaking, I consider SSB to be far superior to Activitypub, like a strong and healthy SSB network will likely be better in many ways. but the network effect working against SSB is *so much stronger* than with the Fediverse, which is essentially the only reason I'm posting it on Mastodon and not on <a href="https://433.world/tags/Manyverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Manyverse</span></a>.²</p>
altair<p>На <a href="https://mastodon.ml/tags/%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%B1%D1%80" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>хабр</span></a> отличная статья о децентрализованных социальных сетях для себя и друзей. На своём хостинге — без интернета </p><p><a href="https://habr.com/ru/companies/first/articles/654625/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">habr.com/ru/companies/first/ar</span><span class="invisible">ticles/654625/</span></a><br><a href="https://mastodon.ml/tags/habr" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>habr</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ml/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>fediverse</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ml/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mastodon</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ml/tags/pleroma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>pleroma</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ml/tags/misskey" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>misskey</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ml/tags/pixelfed" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>pixelfed</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ml/tags/peertube" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>peertube</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ml/tags/SecureScuttlebutt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SecureScuttlebutt</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ml/tags/SSB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SSB</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ml/tags/Manyverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Manyverse</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.ml/tags/aktivitypub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>aktivitypub</span></a></p>
Ciourte Piaille<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://framapiaf.org/@goofy" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>goofy</span></a></span> It's funny though, because a <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/tagging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tagging</span></a> system is what I thought of when I found the censorship system of <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/SecureScuttleButt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SecureScuttleButt</span></a> to be too all-or-nothing (you can publicly or privately block a user, and that's about it; the blocking also cuts you off from the users who were reaching you through that user).<br><a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/SSB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SSB</span></a> being a much more decentralized network than a federation like the fediverse, if the ability to get messages not in order was added, you could decide to hide some messages for yourself, delete, tag and stop sharing them so that other people won't get them from you and may follow your lead (without removing the ability to block bad actors altogether).</p>
:jan::abreath:🌬️:dandelion:<p>The idea of <a href="https://pagan.plus/tags/LoRA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LoRA</span></a> and <a href="https://pagan.plus/tags/sneakernets" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sneakernets</span></a> growing out of things like <a href="https://pagan.plus/tags/SecureScuttleButt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SecureScuttleButt</span></a> that are largely shut off from the rest of the internet is looking more and more attractive and doable everyday...</p>
We DistributeWhat is We Distribute, exactly? 🤔<br><br>We Distribute is a CC-licensed open media project. It serves as a people-focused tech publication, with the goal of informing and educating people about three things:<br><br>1. Decentralized Communications<br>2. User empowerment<br>3. The future of the Internet<br><br>Most of what we do involves reporting on the day-to-day developments of the <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.wedistribute.org/tag/fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a>. In fact, our articles are ActivityPub-enabled, and integrate directly into the network.<br><br>However, the Social Web / Decentralized Social movement involves far more efforts and technologies that we think are also worth reporting on: <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.wedistribute.org/tag/matrix" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Matrix</a>, <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.wedistribute.org/tag/xmpp" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>, <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.wedistribute.org/tag/bluesky" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Bluesky</a>, <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.wedistribute.org/tag/nostr" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Nostr</a>, <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.wedistribute.org/tag/securescuttlebutt" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SecureScuttlebutt</a>, and <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.wedistribute.org/tag/solid" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Solid</a> all bring interesting pieces to the puzzle.<br><br>Our ultimate goal is to showcase the ongoing efforts to change the shape and form of the Internet itself, at a grassroots level. Join us on this exciting journey. <a class="hashtag" href="https://social.wedistribute.org/tag/wedistribute" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WeDistribute</a>
HowToPhil (Phillip R)<p>The main problem I have with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/manyverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>manyverse</span></a> and other <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/secureScuttlebutt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>secureScuttlebutt</span></a> programs is that I don't live in a city and cannot make connections when there are 20+ miles of air between me and the social-people</p>
Deadly Headshot<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@molly0xfff" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>molly0xfff</span></a></span><br>The closest thing to a working "blockchain-based social network" is <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SecureScuttleButt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SecureScuttleButt</span></a>, which has the issue of requiring Infinite storage to use for any length of time. I was on there for about 6 months, within which time my SSB account took up 1-2GB of my HDD with no possible way to trim old posts...</p>
Jeremy List<p>Habitat (<a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/SecureScuttlebutt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SecureScuttlebutt</span></a> client for <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/HaikuOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HaikuOS</span></a> ) currently replacing the BFS index based pseudo-database with an sqlite database as the former started choking around the 1 million file mark. Will probably start making it display posts soon</p>
LisPi<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://plasmatrap.com/@privateger" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>privateger</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.naln1.ca/users/Elizafox" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Elizafox</span></a></span> Both <a href="https://mastodon.top/tags/I2P" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>I2P</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.top/tags/Veilid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Veilid</span></a> unfortunately make the assumption that low-latency bidirectional connections can be attained.</p><p>Which is another way to say they assume the presence of the internet.</p><p>In ideal circumstances that's great... but such circumstances cannot be guaranteed.</p><p>Meanwhile for example <a href="https://mastodon.top/tags/NNCP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NNCP</span></a>, <a href="https://mastodon.top/tags/Briar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Briar</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.top/tags/SSB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SSB</span></a> (<a href="https://mastodon.top/tags/SecureScuttleButt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SecureScuttleButt</span></a>) will all still be operational without it, by <a href="https://mastodon.top/tags/sneakernet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sneakernet</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.top/tags/snailmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>snailmail</span></a> if nothing else.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.top/tags/AsynchronousCommunication" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AsynchronousCommunication</span></a></p>
Jeremy List<p>In little bits of free time spread out across the past year and a bit I've been writing a <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/SecureScuttlebutt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SecureScuttlebutt</span></a> client for <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/HaikuOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HaikuOS</span></a>. It doesn't work yet but it's gradually getting closer. <a href="https://gitlab.com/quickdudley/habitat" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">gitlab.com/quickdudley/habitat</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Julian_1_2_3_4_5<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://climatejustice.social/@srgray" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>srgray</span></a></span><br>Just saw your 2 year old post:<br>ssb:message/sha256/aqdAbYYSFuv3ksNZaQsiU0NdeyomrSbbd_OfhWHbC84=<br>about <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/solarpunk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>solarpunk</span></a> on mastodon via <a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/securescuttlebutt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>securescuttlebutt</span></a> and thought i would say hi.</p>
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LisPi<p>So are <a href="https://mastodon.top/tags/SSB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SSB</span></a>, <a href="https://mastodon.top/tags/NNTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NNTP</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.top/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> the main <a href="https://mastodon.top/tags/social" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>social</span></a> protocols to keep an eye on right now or are others also pretty active and/or with interesting features?</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.top/tags/SocialProtocols" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SocialProtocols</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.top/tags/Usenet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Usenet</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.top/tags/SecureScuttlebutt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SecureScuttlebutt</span></a></p>
Klaus Alexander Seistrup<span class="h-card"><a class="u-url mention" href="https://mastodon.social/@jameswynn" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>jameswynn</span></a></span> It's true that your <a class="hashtag" href="https://magnetic-ink.dk/tag/nostr" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#nostr</a> identity is just a public key (akin to identities on, say <a class="hashtag" href="https://magnetic-ink.dk/tag/securescuttlebutt" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SecureScuttlebutt</a> / <a class="hashtag" href="https://magnetic-ink.dk/tag/ssb" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SSB</a>). However, you can make an NIP-05 vanity name so that your identity becomes more easily recognizable to other people:<br><br>🔗 <a href="https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/05.md" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/05.md</a><br>🔗 <a href="https://patrickulrich.com/2022/12/24/what-is-nip-05/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://patrickulrich.com/2022/12/24/what-is-nip-05/</a><br><br>The system of relays is not more complicated than chosing a home server on <a class="hashtag" href="https://magnetic-ink.dk/tag/activitypub" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ActivityPub</a>. Most of the nostr clients I've seen so far come with a handful of suggestions configured and ready to go.<br><br>That said, I find it much more difficult to avoid spam on <a class="hashtag" href="https://magnetic-ink.dk/tag/nostr" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#nostr</a>, and generally I much prefer the content I see on activitypub. Perhaps I have been unfortunate / unskilful in my choice of relays or followings on nostr, but a lot of the posts seem to be just people promoting crypto currencies amd sharing their bitcoin address. Gets pretty boring / annoying after a short while.<br><br>:fediverse:
LisPi<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://mastodon.grin.hu/@grin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>grin</span></a></span> <span class="h-card"><a href="https://mk.absturztau.be/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> But unlike say... <a href="https://mastodon.top/tags/SecureScuttlebutt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SecureScuttlebutt</span></a> there's no explicit affordance made for relays or TURN-like convenience whatsoever.</p><p>There's an assumption that end-to-end connectivity is possible over low-latency networks.</p>
Evan Dower<p>I installed <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/Manyverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Manyverse</span></a> in order to experience the <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/SecureScuttlebutt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SecureScuttlebutt</span></a> network, but I guess that might be the end of my experience, since I don't actually know anybody in <a href="https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/tags/ssb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ssb</span></a>, and there's not really a way to find people you might know. If you're on it, send me an invite, I guess? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯</p>
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