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I agree, Allonzee. We are omnivores, the dental folding and creases of our teeth are designed both for eating vegetables and for consumption of meat. And of the two, only vegetables actually are problematic in human digestion and can sometimes rot in the gut.

Also, interestingly, experts are now saying you SHOULD eat some bacon in your diet no matter what - it has the same Omega 3 fatty acids in its fat that fish has, and is actually good for your heart (not in massive quantities). So we've gone from banning bacon, to seeing it as a beneficial food.

For myself, I can't imagine not enjoying meat right off the bone, from a good pork chop, spare rib, or chicken wing. To me it's one of the most primal and satisfying of gustatory pleasures. But, I do see why other people choose not to consume meat, and I just hope they are staying well nourished and getting protein in some form.

I’m not a vegan but this is a bad argument. You don’t need back to get omega3s. Omnivore means you CAN eat meat, not that you NEED to eat meat. That would make you a carnivore.

Nobody cares about if you like eating those things, by the way. Not sure why you bothered to tell everyone about your food preferences with such detail except to get a rise out of Vegans, jeez. It’s also pretty hilarious that you brought up your “concern” for them given the text in the screenshot lol

Right, you can get plenty of fats from a vegan diet if you are smart about it. The tough part seems to be getting enough healthy fats and proteins. In both keto and vegan diets you can follow the diet and absolutely destroy your body if you don't also pay attention to essential fats, vitamins, etc.

Should be noted that you can actually do keto vegetarian but boy will it be hard. The more restrictive the diet, the more you need to pay attention to in terms of your nutrition.

you can get plenty of fats from a vegan diet if you are smart about it

You don’t even need to be smart about it. French fries are vegan. As are Oreos, and probably a billion other things that can get you plenty of fats without trying.

People seem to have the misconception that vegans just eat raw fruits and veggies all day (as evidenced by the fact that the “vegan option” at my work Halloween party was just a Costco fruit bowl). Most of the cooked veggies I eat are tossed in olive or avocado oil, a great source of fats.

Sure, some of the vegans I know supplement D3 and B12 because plant based foods, unless fortified, are lacking in these nutrients, but guess what, those are super easy things to pick up at the grocery store vitamin aisle - a small price to pay for all of the other benefits of going vegan.

All of that said, I’ve never met a vegan who had any difficulty getting enough fat in their diet.

You shouldnt be using vitamin pills for any dietary supplement. You uptake ~10-30% if youre lucky. The pill goes right through you. It needs to be in a food item with some mass, so it stays within the digestive tract.

@wildginger @RvTV95XBeo Right, so you can just take it after a meal and uptake should be okay...

Not really, because the pill just dissolves and flushes out with your piss all the same.

Its not in the food. If you really are dedicated to using a pill form, you need to crush it and directly add it in with meal prep.

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@wildginger Have there been actual tests on this? I'm sure there have, but I haven't looked into it too much.

Yes, usually with the angle of “those bottle of vitamins youre buying are a scam”

Its why vitamin gummies became a thing. The idea being that by making it a gummie, it needs to be digested, and thus will be uptaken.

But Ive not seen any studies saying that the gummies actually pull that off. Maybe they do, Ive just not seen anything about it.

Problem is the gummies are far less diverse and specific. Most are general purpose multivitamins. So if they do work, they usually miss the specific deficiencies people would want to target cause you just cant find em.