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ira

@hugo alternatives? tried Fairphones long ago but they seemed tied into Google/Andriod & I'm not a tech wonk enough to install Linux etc. Just want it to work otu of the box like Signal messenger app.

@iraantlers

Not sure about long ago but I know now fair phones do not come with Google pre installed.

You have the option to install play store etc in a sandbox environment within the phone if you wish

Or you can easily install manual Apks in the normal way.

Again none of this is "out of the box" to most end users but it's not difficult either

@hugo