If you're a longtime #Windows user who might want to give #Linux a try but you don't know where to begin and are worried it will all be too overwhelming for you, then I suggest #Fedora #Onyx. You'll get a very similar desktop experience via #Budgie with a very low maintenance Linux experience under the hood. And yes, you can game with it .
Imagine if #ChromeOS looked and felt more like #Windows, but is free, runs out of box on most modern hardware, and you don't have to sign up for an account anywhere to use it. You're always just one reboot away from your system and firmware being up to date so you can focus on actually just using your computer. If this sounds appealing to you, then welcome to #Fedora #Onyx.
@vwbusguy hrmmmmm I do detest windows but.....Linux!?!?!
@heurism I initially didn't switch to #Linux because I wanted to run Linux. I initially tried it out because #Windows finally annoyed me too much. I remember the first thing I did in Linux was created folders for "My Computer" and "My Documents" just so I had some kind of familiarity. People coming from Windows today will have a much more familiar experience with #Budgie.
The thing I'm most concerned about is gaming, drivers, etc.
@heurism @SoftwareTheron Did I mention that #Fedora #Onyx is a good choice for gaming? ;-)
I'm about to go play some Steam games on my #Fedora laptop right now.
FYI, if you need nVidia drivers, etc., just enable 3rd party software in Software after your first boot. It's amazing how easy things are these days for most people/systems.
@vwbusguy @SoftwareTheron how is the learning curve for gaming and modding?
@heurism @SoftwareTheron Gaming is easy if you use something like Steam or Epic, etc. I personally used @lutris to get that stuff setup for me, but you can run #Steam natively or with wine/proton.
Modding is an interesting question, because you can utilize tools like toolbox or distrobox to really dial in your dev environment without fear of breaking your system.
@vwbusguy @heurism @SoftwareTheron
How hard is it to install old NVIDIA drivers on an immutable OS?
Whic immutable OS we even talking about. Closest I can think of outside of livecd based distros is nixos… but ive never heard it called that.
The one mentioned by OP fedoraproject.org/onyx/
Btw, there are so many immutable Linux Distros its crazy. Fedora has four flavors, Ubuntu has one, OpenSUSE has one too. Popular one is https://vanillaos.org/
Even the Steam Deck OS is immutable.
I like tweaking my Linux setup and I have old NVIDIA discrete card, so I don’t want to fight my OS to install a driver or to make changes. But I never had the experience working on Immutable Linux OS so I can’t judge yet.
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@voidabyss @freemo @heurism @SoftwareTheron In Onxy, when you enable 3rd party software (it asks on your first post-install boot), it enables the RPMFusion nVidia driver repo. In other words, very easy.
@vwbusguy @heurism @SoftwareTheron
Hey Scott, are you familiar with vtoyboot? I use it to boot linux distro I installed on a virtual disk (vdi,vhd,etc) so I have native hardware performance when booting the disto vdi disk using ventoy.
https://www.ventoy.net/en/plugin_vtoyboot.html
In order to do that, I have to run vtoyboot script on that disto, I don’t know exactly what that script do, I am not that knowledgeable on #linux (hopefully nothing nefarious).
I would like to know if fedora #atomic desktops are compatible with that vtoyboot script.
Thank you!
@voidabyss @heurism @SoftwareTheron I have to ask why you don't just install Fedora directly on the USB stick in that case?
Also whether or not it performs better is gonna be questionable. You're trading hypervisor overhead for slower iops. If you are using hardware passthrough with a Linux host, you should already be getting near native performance for the resources you've allocated to it.
@vwbusguy @heurism @SoftwareTheron
I tried that way, it’s just usb stick i/o is too slow, there is nothing like running linux desktop on native hardware especially SSD/NVMe hard drive for i/o, a lot of ram and integrated graphics for video games.
Installing a distro on virtual disk gives me a lot of flexibility moving the VHD between hosts and having the option to run the disto as a virtual machine.
@vwbusguy @heurism @SoftwareTheron
vtoyboot script doesn’t seem to works out of the box with fedora Kinoit and even messed up the grub2 a bit now I can’t boot in EFI. Is there a away to overlay the script modifications on top of fedora Kinoit?
https://pastebin.com/hheUm8Jv
@vwbusguy @heurism I was thinking about this Windows-enforced norm today as I looked at my home directory in KDE with its default Pictures, Documents etc. folders—most of which are nearly empty!
When you think about it, organizing files by type doesn't really make much sense for the type of work we like to do on computers, i.e. multimedia. A project-based or chronological structure makes way more sense, perhaps with an indexed database for the rare occasion where you want to filter by type.
@convexer @heurism Yeah, I mostly agree. The Pictures and Downloads folders do get regular use, but usually the first thing I do is create a Projects folder and organize things by sub-folders there. "Documents" is usually just a place to store things like W-2's and expense reports, etc. that get sync'd to my personal file server.