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I'm not saying there's no such thing as software bloat (there is) but the reason that your computer magically always seems to use 80-90% of the ram no matter how much ram you install is that the computer understands empty ram doesn't do anything but ram being used to cache files makes your user experience much faster

this is a good thing! if your computer stopped doing this everything would suddenly feel very sluggish and stuttery!

@0xabad1dea But this isn't the "using 80-90% of ram" we actually experience. The actual is that Chrome (or whatever Electron app) has allocated for its private use (not fs page cache) 80-90% of ram, thereby preventing fs cache from working and making the computer sluggish & stuttery.

@dalias I'm not denying it's a problem for you but I am always confused on this point because every time someone says something like "discord is using up 6GB!" I double check mine and it's using 200MB, maybe 300. I don't think I've ever once caught discord using some shocking amount, or microsoft teams which I also hear this about

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@0xabad1dea @dalias Teams would use about 2GB, New Teams sits just below 1 for me. I didn't reconfigure anything, OS is Win10.