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Mx. Luna Corbden<p>After all, the God of the Christian Bible as widely interpreted is awfully authoritarian. You couldn't find a better example of squishy principles, double-standards, might makes right, the ends justify the means, cruelty is the point, justice as defined by punishment, punishment that vastly outsizes the crime, transactional love, exclusion as a definitive value, hierarchy based on birthright as the perfect system, torture as a test of character, speaking love but not practicing it...</p><p>Almighty makes Alrighty. </p><p>It's a perfect fit for abusers. They shaped God into that figure, as the Bible was being written thousands of years ago, in how it was translated and encoded into traditions centuries ago, and in how they interpret it today. Whether at the top of the chain as a prophet or pope, or in the downline as a impoverished drunk who beats his kids, authoritarians are preferenced in the religious culture that has claimed a monopoly on love and morality.</p><p>And nobody really wins. Not the prophet or pope, and not the impoverished drunk or his kids. After a time, the system is the only entity that "wins" as it feeds on every human being involved.</p><p><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AbuseCulture</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReligiousTrauma</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmormon</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvangelical" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exvangelical</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exvie</span></a></p>
Mx. Luna Corbden<p>Have you ever thought to yourself, "You know, I could just *stop* trying to be a good person, or stop trying to do X thing they say I'm supposed to do... I could just lie and go on doing that thing"? And then you probably decided, naw, my reasons for doing the good thing are fairly solid, so I will keep trying to do what I'm supposed to even if it's hard."</p><p>Yeah, there are people who take the other fork. They stop trying to be kind, or be honest, or be giving, or trying to protect the weak, or any of those things. They decide that so long as they don't *get caught* they'll be fine.</p><p>Religion is supposed to help with that problem, because God knows everything and the myth goes that they'll be caught in the end. But there are many, many ways for a determined person to weasel their way out of that threat. Either they stop believing that myth and instead of leaving they stay and *pretend* to believe, or they rationalize that the ends according to them justify the means, or that they're inherently such a good person it's ok if they bend the rules now and then.</p><p>They took a different fork than you took. And they exist. They're out there. Or *in here*, wherever here is to you. And they get very, very good a lying.</p><p>Religious settings are perfect for them, because it's easier to lie about things that can't be seen, touched, heard, or proven. The Bible says this, God wants that, I had a dream, I felt prompted, and all the people who took the fork of continuing to try, but who believe the Bible and God? They eat it up. </p><p>That's why Christianity in the US is a bastion of Abuse Culture. Because this cycle has been going on for thousands of years. </p><p><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AbuseCulture</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReligiousTrauma</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmormon</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvangelical" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exvangelical</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exvie</span></a></p>
Mx. Luna Corbden<p>For clarity, I am not dishing on the letter writers. Trust is not a crime. Naivety is not a crime. Giving one's best shot at defending someone from a miscarriage of spiritual justice is not a crime. Processing things with what you know about this world is not a crime. Their words will (editor willing) go into this book and stand as testament against religious authoritarianism, and against President Daley specifically. </p><p>I am simply referencing their approach as a way to educate on how we do need to change our thinking, in that someone who acts the way Daley did is not persuadable using ideas like "compassion" because he doesn't understand that worldview the way you and I do. And we need to get wise to that so they can stop running the world.</p><p><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AbuseCulture</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReligiousTrauma</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmormon</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvangelical" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exvangelical</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exvie</span></a></p>
Mx. Luna Corbden<p>Learning about the abuser mindset makes me read differently the arguments people make in seeking justice or trying to get people and systems to stop being abusive.</p><p>When abuse is the point, "Stop doing this because it's harming people" won't work.</p><p>My client, Natasha Helfer, was excommunicated from the LDS Church for a number of things, including calling out abuse of authority. I'm editing letters of support people sent that Stake President, for inclusion in the book. </p><p>They're like, "I'm a true believer, please don't excommunicate Sister Helfer, this is how she helped me escape abuse, or helped my daughter process her assault, or helped my gay kid, or saved my mental health from debilitating shame," and I'm reading them with President Daley's authoritarian mind (yeah, sue me, prick, your actions are clear), or with the mind of "the system," and like, naw, hun, this will not phase an abuser, who thinks you deserved it, your child needs to change, that guy is an acceptable casualty for the Lord, and haha you suckers you haven't even begun to figure out how this works, have you?</p><p>And I was thinking last night about the word "predator" while watching a homesteading show. Where the bears and cougars had people crying and ready to give up. You think "predator" is an insult to someone who does those things to women and kids? Naw, hun, that's a BADGE OF HONOR to some of those creeps. They like people crying and running around helplessly failing to stop them. They get off more on that than on the predation. Even better when they can trick a congregation full of "christlike" people to defend them and heap further abuse on a victim.</p><p>Some abusers are unconscious, and maybe this kind of language might sway them or at least shame them. For sure. </p><p>But the ones who are fully aware of who they are? Who have created an entire worldview around their impulses? </p><p>All of this pain and chaos is the point.</p><p>That's <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AbuseCulture</span></a>.</p><p><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReligiousTrauma</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmormon</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvangelical" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exvangelical</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exvie</span></a></p>
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Mx. Luna Corbden<p>31 And the LORD turned to a secret fourth servant and asked what he had done with the ten talents he had been given.</p><p>32 And thus did the secret fourth servant say, </p><p>33 "I have invested thy talents, and indeed have gone door to door, and sent mine men door to door, to all of thy people, yea, even the rich, and the poorest among them, yea even the widows and orphans, prophesying unto them, saying their LORD will come upon them and smite them with an evil curse for all eternity if they didst not render unto me ten percent of their own talents, the product of their toil and the sweat of their brows, and I have invested this as well, and I return to thee, oh LORD, with two hundred billion talents."</p><p>34 "Jesus Fucking Christ," sayeth the LORD. "What the fuck is wrong with thee?</p><p>35 "For thou didst pillage those who had not, those unto whom thou shouldst have given thine all. </p><p>36 "Now it would seem easier for thee to go through a camel's ass who is himself going through the eye of a needle than for thou to enterest into my kingdom. Fucking hells man, what is wrong with thee?? Get out of mine fucking sight."</p><p>Matthew 25, lost translation</p><p><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmormon</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReligiousTrauma</span></a></p>
Mx. Luna Corbden<p>Church that's richer than Heavenly Father (and every other church in the world) soon could live on the interest from its more than $200b of investments, but naw, will require tithes anyway because it's in the Book of Malachi and they're saving up treasures in heaven for you! A couple billion more is always nice, so pay up your tithing even if your cupboard is bare! After all, the Prophet isn't selfish! He doesn't want to hoard all those blessings to himself!</p><p><a href="https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/04/01/lds-church-wealth-day-soon-may/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">sltrib.com/religion/2025/04/01</span><span class="invisible">/lds-church-wealth-day-soon-may/</span></a></p><p>No paywall:</p><p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20250401171040/https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/04/01/lds-church-wealth-day-soon-may/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">http://</span><span class="ellipsis">web.archive.org/web/2025040117</span><span class="invisible">1040/https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/04/01/lds-church-wealth-day-soon-may/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/UTPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UTPol</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/LDSPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LDSPol</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/LDS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LDS</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/Mormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mormon</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmormon</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReligiousTrauma</span></a></p>
Mx. Luna Corbden<p>With a Living Prophet, Seer, and Revelator™ able to see what mere men cannot, LDS Church rushes to do bare minimum of what other Utah churches are already doing to meet demands of new state law to protect children from predators.</p><p><a href="https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/04/01/lds-church-other-groups-are/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">sltrib.com/religion/2025/04/01</span><span class="invisible">/lds-church-other-groups-are/</span></a></p><p>(Subtext: The "helpline" mentioned at the bottom of the article is historically just a dedicated legal team who will rush in and cover-up any scandals before the church's good image can be sullied. Nelson's words are so, so empty. Yes, Brother, sic Jesus on 'em. That'll save the children.)</p><p>(Also, fuck Nelson. Support Protect Every Child and other advocacy groups! <a href="https://protecteverychild.com" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">protecteverychild.com</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> )</p><p>No paywall:</p><p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20250401172927/https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/04/01/lds-church-other-groups-are/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">http://</span><span class="ellipsis">web.archive.org/web/2025040117</span><span class="invisible">2927/https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/04/01/lds-church-other-groups-are/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/UTPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>UTPol</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/LDS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LDS</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/Mormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mormon</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmormon</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReligiousTrauma</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/CSA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CSA</span></a></p>
The Flight Attendant<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://med-mastodon.com/@bicmay" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>bicmay</span></a></span> Wow! I had no idea Jacinda Ardern, former PM was ex LDS! <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/exMormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exMormon</span></a></p>
Mx. Luna Corbden<p>This is a long way to say: If you don't understand the effects of cognitive dissonance, and don't unpack your own internal contradictions, you can be more easily manipulated into behaviors and beliefs you would not *consciously* agree with.</p><p>If you like free agency and are a big fan of free will, this is the sort of thing you need to work on.</p><p><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/philosophy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>philosophy</span></a><br><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/atheism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>atheism</span></a><br><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/theism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>theism</span></a><br><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvangelical" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exvangelical</span></a><br><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exvie</span></a><br><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmormon</span></a><br><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a><br><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReligiousTrauma</span></a><br><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AbuseCulture</span></a></p>
Mx. Luna Corbden<p>Theological concepts like "The Problem of Evil" aren't just atheist gotchas. The contradictions within certain theologies can exist unawares within the minds of believers, causing dissonance that comes out in ways that perpetuate and allow harms to continue.</p><p>For instance, even if a Christian believer has not consciously considered the Problem of Evil, they will still feel this contradiction whenever it is encountered:</p><p>1. God is good.<br>2. God is omnipotent.<br>3. God allows evil to exist.</p><p>They will have many sideways methods of resolving this discomfort, which will vary from person to person and from situation to situation.</p><p>They may, for instance, lean on Just World views (the feeling that the world is automatically fair and so if someone is disadvantaged they must have done something to deserve it) when it comes to LGBTQ issues. God is good, and omnipotent, so if a queer person is suffering, it isn't because their church community has stigmatized them or because church doctrines about God's will are wrong (or further, that God might not exist or might not be good), no it must be proof that being queer is sinful and they deserve their suffering. </p><p>This same formula applies in many other areas, including towards abuse victims.</p><p>The contradictions within many popular forms of theism are not harmless. They get resolved, usually unconsciously, by organizations and individuals. When they are resolved without mindful consideration of the consequences, people get hurt.</p><p>For abusers and powertrippers? This is by design, to their benefit, and more likely to be conscious.</p><p><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AbuseCulture</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReligiousTrauma</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmormon</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exvie</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exvangelical" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exvangelical</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/theism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>theism</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/atheism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>atheism</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/philosophy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>philosophy</span></a></p>
Still Mad About CD Prices<p>I'm still on <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/facebook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>facebook</span></a> * and I have a few acquaintances who post stuff that is both frustrating for the rational and post-religious parts of my brain and also reassuring, because apparently there would be plenty of clients if I need to fully sell out and become a psychic for cash.</p><ul><li>for friends and family updates and to post "WTF is wrong with you?" political memes until I get banned</li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmormon</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/religion" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>religion</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/woo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>woo</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/cognitivebiases" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cognitivebiases</span></a></p>
Mx. Luna Corbden<p>Oh how embarrassing. I'm looking at the update to Recovering Agency I made in 2021 (mostly just to update my name etc) and at least in the PDF version, it looks like it changed my Official LDS Replica Serif typeface on the title page to something suspiciously like Papyrus! 😂 </p><p>I'll just say, uh, I meant to do that... it's "Reformed Egyptian"!</p><p><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmormon</span></a></p>
Mx. Luna Corbden<p>Here's a post I wrote awhile back calling out the Church's white religious supremacy and cultural colonialism, which will have to suffice. They'd have to stop doing this crap, too. For me to be satisfied. </p><p><a href="https://recoveringagency.com/elder-jacksons-culture-of-christ-is-a-culture-of-white-supremacy/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">recoveringagency.com/elder-jac</span><span class="invisible">ksons-culture-of-christ-is-a-culture-of-white-supremacy/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmormon</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReligiousTrauma</span></a></p>
Mx. Luna Corbden<p>This is the strongest statement against racism the LDS Church has *ever* officially released. Among other things, it calls racism a "sin" and tells members to call out racism when they see it.</p><p>While this is big, I still have complaints. </p><p>As with all the "essays," it's a minimum effort, published online in a little far off place so they can claim plausible deniability but reach as few members as possible. I'll feel better when they expound on this from the pulpit at General Conference, Every Single Conference, with some words From the Actual Prophet, and also get Correlation to include this as a dedicated lesson in every single lesson manual from Primary to Gospel Doctrine, churchwide. And throw in a couple of hymns and primary songs to show they mean it.</p><p>I'm going to be very hard to please on this – thanks to being raised by goodly parents, I have Very High Standards™ – but I will acknowledge this very large step in the Right Direction, especially in these times when it seems like everyone is taking a step in the wrong direction. </p><p>And I will add that they would not have taken this step without the intense efforts of activists, progressive mormons, and exmormons, including Black Latter-day Saints, putting the pressure on for well over a decade, and to a free and open internet that made such activism effective. </p><p>I wish I had capacity to write my full thoughts in a blog post on this. But my Very High Standard is this: When they speak out against racism and OTHER BIGOTRY as often as and as intensely as they speak against unauthorized sex, then I'll be satisfied. They've got a long way to go, but to quote my old ex-friend Jesus, who is now quite doctrinally NOT WHITE: </p><p>"I didn't say it would be easy; I only said it would be worth it." </p><p>(Maybe he's not white anymore, but Christ is still incredibly Smug. On this topic, he should be.)</p><p><a href="https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/03/22/lds-church-jesus-wasnt-white/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">sltrib.com/religion/2025/03/22</span><span class="invisible">/lds-church-jesus-wasnt-white/</span></a></p><p>Wayback: <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20250323151234/https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/03/22/lds-church-jesus-wasnt-white/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">http://</span><span class="ellipsis">web.archive.org/web/2025032315</span><span class="invisible">1234/https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/03/22/lds-church-jesus-wasnt-white/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmormon</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReligiousTrauma</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/LDS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LDS</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/Mormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mormon</span></a></p>
Mx. Luna Corbden<p>This gross misuse of AI technology is most definitely going to get someone accidentally exiled to Outer Darkness or, at the very least, eternal banishment from the Celestial Kingdom and their forever family. </p><p>Some kid is going to ask it if masturbation is ok and it's going to tell them it is, backed by fake scripture citations, and that kid is going to fap off and it's over for them. Or they'll ask if God has a body, or if the Father, Jesus, and the HG are all the same person, or how the Book of Mormon can be true if Joseph Smith was sexually abusing his foster daughter, and the LLM is going to get confused and mislead an earnest, faithful member right on into apostasy.</p><p>Apologia for a self-contradictory set of doctrines and such a complicated, nuanced history is a delicate matter which should be handled with great care. It is nearly an impossible task for fervent faith-promoting scholars who have dedicated their lives to this precarious balance. An LLM will not be up to the task.</p><p>The data reported to bishops on the private thoughts of their congregants, so they can call struggling members into surprise interviews under the guise of "spiritual revelation" to evoke an uncanny sense of miraculous priesthood power, is simply not enough benefit to make up for the number of souls which will be led into further error by its false doctrines. This tool is spiritual negligence and reckless eternal endangerment of the worst kind. It's just handing the reigns of free agency right on over to Satan. </p><p>It's really too bad that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints doesn't have a living prophet who can offer ongoing revelation to prevent such an obvious error.</p><p><a href="https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/general-handbook-artificial-intelligence-search-assistant" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.o</span><span class="invisible">rg/article/general-handbook-artificial-intelligence-search-assistant</span></a></p><p><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmormon</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReligiousTrauma</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AbuseCulture</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/cult" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>cult</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AI</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/MindControl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MindControl</span></a></p>
Mx. Luna Corbden<p>To Mormons: We're already gods. We're on our own. What we make of this earth is what we make of it. Daddy isn't going to hold our hand.</p><p><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ExMormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ExMormon</span></a></p>
Mx. Luna Corbden<p>Dan McClellan is a BYU Bible scholar. He's chosen the correct fork in the great divide of these times. This is a good talk on empathy's role in society.</p><p><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/psychology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>psychology</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/empathy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>empathy</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmormon</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/lds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>lds</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/mormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>mormon</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/AbuseCulture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>AbuseCulture</span></a></p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/2z8DEF6b54I" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">youtu.be/2z8DEF6b54I</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Mx. Luna Corbden<p>It's interesting to think of god as a scientist who created this simulation, and each of our awarenesses and memories are data-points of what it is like to experience this reality.</p><p>All of these words are really stand-ins for concepts which can't be put into human words or even human constructs. But I think this direction quite often. </p><p>god probably isn't a being the way we think of beings. Daddy in the sky is not the appropriate metaphor for this way of thinking about god.</p><p>Maybe that means there are realities where the rules are different, and then our body of experiences can be compared to the experiences of awarenesses there to understand how a higher level of reality works.</p><p>I find a lot of purpose in this, that my collection of data and the meaning I've discovered about how this reality works is of benefit to "god," in how that will be compared to the conclusions and summaries of uncountable other awarenesses. </p><p>No matter what happens to me, I've contributed. All I have to do is think an observation, and it's of value. Nothing is "correct" or "true," just another datapoint in a vast, incomprehensible experiment.</p><p>I hardly even think that such a god created any of this, but instead arose naturally, as we did, out of the mixing and matching of all the things that are possible, happening.</p><p>It also stands to reason that there are many more than just one of these gods.</p><p><a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ScriptureWriting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ScriptureWriting</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/exmormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmormon</span></a> <a href="https://defcon.social/tags/ReligiousTrauma" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ReligiousTrauma</span></a></p>
Nathan<p><b>Introduction</b></p><p>Doing an <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=introduction" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>introduction</span></a> as I'm new to Friendica, which is quickly becoming one of my favorite ways to engage with the fediverse, and friendica.world. I'm always happy to meet people with similar interests, so feel free to boost / share!</p><p>I'm a human who loves weird art, all sorts of music (from Hindustani to Death Metal), tech, sunny days, green hills, incense, tea, spirits, soft couches, cats, and books. I'm a prolific vegan cook, and I design, code, write, play games, and produce, write, and play music for fun.</p><p>Some relevant tags are: <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=ADHD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ADHD</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=arch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>arch</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=atheist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>atheist</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=chicago" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>chicago</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=design" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>design</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=endeavouros" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>endeavouros</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=exmo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>exmo</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=ExMormon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ExMormon</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=FLOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FLOSS</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=FOSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FOSS</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=GNU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>GNU</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=incense" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>incense</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=indieweb" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>indieweb</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=introductionspost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>introductionspost</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=KDE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KDE</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=LGBT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LGBT</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=libregraphics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>libregraphics</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=leftist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>leftist</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=music" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>music</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=scotland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>scotland</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=tea" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>tea</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=TransRights" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>TransRights</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=trombone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>trombone</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=vegan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>vegan</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=vegancooking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>vegancooking</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=webdev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>webdev</span></a> <a href="https://friendica.world/search?tag=writing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>writing</span></a></p>