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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@walkinglampshade" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>walkinglampshade</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@jrredho" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>jrredho</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@fj" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>fj</span></a></span> It's basic <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a>, really:</p><ul><li><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> has no <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LegitimateInterest" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LegitimateInterest</span></a>"</em> to demand <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumber</span></a> and they use and abuse that to restrict functionality of their App (it doesn't matter that they merely claim <em>"comply with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sanctions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>sanctions</span></a>"</em> [their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> disqalifies them even more!] because they have the tech to distinguish and discriminate users)...</li></ul><p>Thus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> fails at protevting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Journalists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Journalists</span></a> <em>and</em> theor sources because they do have that data and can be <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/subopena" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>subopena</span></a>'d for it if they don't already provide <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BulkSurveillance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>BulkSurveillance</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LawfulInterception" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LawfulInterception</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/API" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>API</span></a>|s to comply with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a>. (Or are you guys so naive and believe <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> will risk <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210606070919/twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">dying of old age in jail for non-paying users?</a>)</p><ul><li>This entire <em>"thread vector"</em> just doesn't exist with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> nor <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME! </li></ul><p>And if you believe <em>"this won't ne used/abused me because I'm from 'Murica!"</em> and point at <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a> as an example, then you really ignored all tze <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Cyberfacism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Cyberfacism</span></a> since 9/11…</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hubzilla.monster/channel/tejan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>tejan</span></a></span> the only correct way to deal with this is using <em>proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME &amp; anonymous eMail accounts.</p><ul><li>Providers can only <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/decrypt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>decrypt</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/read" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>read</span></a> for what they have the keys!</li></ul><p>Same goes with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Messengers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Messengers</span></a>, which is why I only recommend <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> (i.e. <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a> ) &amp; PGP/MIME (i.e. <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> &amp; <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>thunderbird</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Thunderbird</span></a>), because unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proprietary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proprietary</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingoeProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SingoeProvider</span></a> solutions, they offer <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> so even if a provider is <em>cooperative</em> or served a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/subopena" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>subopena</span></a> or got theor equipment seized, they can't decrypt the contents!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@MJmusicinears" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>MJmusicinears</span></a></span> I wished it would be generally illegal to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/subopena" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>subopena</span></a> medical records at all!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@xdydx" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>xdydx</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@dreadpir8robots" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>dreadpir8robots</span></a></span> What if I told you it's neither?</p><p>Cuz the <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/InconvenientTruth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>InconvenientTruth</span></a> is that noine's gonna risk jail for a lousy pay, so why should <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> - or anyone else do?</p><p>Not just due to <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a>, but basic <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/telco" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>telco</span></a> laws i.e. <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LawfulInterception" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LawfulInterception</span></a>.</p><p>Espechally since they have <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> aka. <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a> that makes it trivial to track users and comply with any "duely issued <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/subopena" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>subopena</span></a>"...</p><p>Whereas good providers never have that PII at all and never store or collect any.</p>