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How long have I been watching #Cdramas ? Since the 1980s.
How long have I been watching #Kdramas ? Since the early 2000s.

That's a LOT of dramas watched. If you have been watching for a long time you tend to get fussier and pickier, and your taste is definitely different from newcomers' 🤭

How about you?

@liztai Wow! You have history 😄 I fell down the rabbit hole during the corona pandemic so that would be about 2020? I had become disenchanted with western series on American streaming services and was looking for something different…

doesn’t quite work for me because of my adoption hang up, which has more to do with me than with the quality of the dramas, I think.

I like some , too, but mainly like .

No logic, really 😃

@Sollenbum who needs logic when it comes to dramas! Glad you discovered Cdramas 🥰

@liztai I’m so much happier in Cdrama-land. I think it was Game of Thrones that began my disenchantment with western series. It seemed like they were using graphic violence and nudity to fish for viewers rather than tell a good story. Effects need to be motivated by plot and character, not just piled on because it sells subscriptions to a streaming service.

@Sollenbum @liztai ⬆️ This. At a certain point in Game of Thrones one stops caring for the characters because they are only there to provide shock moments or body parts to gawk at.

Henriette

@Katztronaut @liztai Exactly 🙄 and at some point all bodies just look the same and the violence seems gratuitous. If other people like that, then they can watch it but I got tired of it and moved to 🌸

@Sollenbum @Katztronaut @avradi It was GoT that got me disenchanted too!!! I am usually pretty resilient to tv horror and violence, but the graphic rapes and killing (some of the victims were children) just made me sick. I think GoT was the last drama I chased. The way it ended made the suffering I went through with the violence not worth it 🤣.
But tbh, I mostly turned away cos Hollywood got super formulaic and stopped innovating. And endless seasons! It just got old.

@liztai @Katztronaut @avradi Oh wow! We have had really similar experiences 😄 It was wasn’t a snap decision; we both seemed to have turned our backs on such films and series, because they rely too heavily on bare skin and excessive violence.

isn’t always good and some plots are ridiculous. Censorship is a problem and not everyone can act well, but I’m not subjected to callous exploitation of nudity and over-the-top violence on screen.

@Sollenbum Honestly glad they have safeguards for nudity and violence. I didn't realise how affected I was by them until it was gone. Now it's just very relaxing to just watch your cdrama knowing that it won't suddenly turn to soft porn lol @Katztronaut @avradi

@Sollenbum
_Same_ _So much same!_ Everything turned gritty - which apparently meant grey violence and boring nudity. There's so little fun left in it! C-drama at least allows for goofy moments - and such rare things as colours!
@liztai @Katztronaut @avradi@ieji.de

@MarthaCrimson what I also like is that China produces "hopeful" dramas like Minning Town and She and Her Girls, where you see people rise from terrible conditions to something better. I realise Hollywood don't produce hopeful dramas like these anymore. How about slice of life like Meet Yourself? I missed Gilmore Girl type shows @Sollenbum @Katztronaut

@liztai @MarthaCrimson @Sollenbum I loved Gilmore Girls! At some point it seemed everybody turned nasty on them and you read a lot of criticism along the lines of "shallow" "too cozy" "too white upperclass utopia" and producers dropped the genre like a hot potato. Instead, everything turned gritty.

@Katztronaut @liztai @Sollenbum We can't have girly things - that would give Hollywood cooties. I may be exagerating a bit, but when seeing what companies chose to keep despite criticism, productions that can be labled "for women" "gay" or "queer" usually falls first.

@liztai @MarthaCrimson @Katztronaut I like “Meet Yourself” as well, especially since the characters aren’t young. They are trying to find a better way to live life but without grandiose gestures. It’s a slice of life drama.

@liztai @Sollenbum @Katztronaut I'm a fish out of water since I have seen neither Meet Yourself nor Gilmore Girls, but hope used to be a big part of fantasy too. The trope that 'they're always saving the world' did, in fact, mean that the world was saved - and usually the characters met an equal mix of a-holes and friendly helpers on the way. Currently Western fantasy have an overweight of a-holes, even among the heroes.