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@Andres @dansup what's matrix and why use that over signal?

@spycrab
@shipwreckt
Signal is a corporation (yes, it doesn't store your data or messages, so it's kind of safe)
Matrix is a protocol, no one controls it; Like Activity Pub, people can build applications over it, just like :mastodon: :peertube: and :pixelfed:

@Andres @spycrab @shipwreckt

It's not just "kind of safe." It's a legitimate means of safe and private communication owned by a non-profit.

Open source code, vetted by the security industry.

You don't have to do hardly any digging to verify all its accolades.

Give their CEO, @Mer__edith , a follow if you're so inclined.

@kyleirl @Andres @spycrab @shipwreckt @Mer__edith open source code, but no way of proving that that's the same code that's running on your iPhone. If you installed signal from the apple store or the Google play store there is no way to know it's not sending every message to the NSA or something. You also can't be sure the server is running the published source. The problem I have with signal is that all of these wonderful claims are completely unverifiable, and that smells like honey trap.

Matija Nalis

@bigfishrunning @kyleirl @Andres @spycrab @shipwreckt @Mer__edith Also, the release .apk app contains not only published open source code, but also proprietary (non-free) binary blobs linked with it, and Signal foundation (or was it just Moxie?) was never OK with people removing those non-free blobs and connecting to their servers (which is why FOSS app store could never publish , which is a shame and a reason why many FOSS won't run it. Also, why no ?)