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ilyess

Is fully federated like yet? Last time I checked there was only one server for all users, despite the underlying protocol supporting federation.

@ilyess if you can't host it yourself (which you currently cannot), then it won't be any more federated than Skype used to be.

@necrophcodr Agreed. I thought the idea of Bluesky’s protocol was to eventually offer full federation support similar to ActivityPub, with the possibility of using domain names as usernames.

@ilyess it’s not, and also bluesky sucks

If you wanna interact with people there, I think this bridge might work? Not sure what features it supports: @bsky.brid.gy

@luana @bsky.brid.gy Thanks, I’m not interested in interacting with Bluesky from here. Just curious about how it all works.

@ilyess there's no federation as of yet. You have to connect to BlueSky if you host your own stuff.

It's still very much in active development.

Edit: got that wrong. My mistake. See reply 👇

@BeAware @ilyess yes, federation is turned on (not really the same architecture as AP in any case)

There are 227 separate personal data servers (PDS) blue.mackuba.eu/directory/pdse

It’s open source and you can run your own. You can connect into Bluesky’s client, or use a third party client.

blue.mackuba.euBluesky handle directory – PDSesTable of known custom PDSes with user counts

@BeAware @ilyess Whitewind has defined a long form blogging “lexicon” (data type, like AP Vocabulary where microblogging = note, long form = article).

All Lexicons get stored in a user PDS and no new accounts are needed.

Whitewind also has a front end AppView which lets you author & read blogs. Anyone could write their own AppView.

@ilyess I use fed.brid.gy/ which works and enables de facto opt-in federation. You can also use it to create a federated account for your website, if it supports RSS (or a few other simple standards). It's good. It's open social being open.

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@hallenbeck Thanks! I might look into it for my website. I’m not interested in federating with Bluesky though. Just trying to understand how their federation protocol compares to ActivityPub.

@ilyess It's extremely simple if you have an RSS feed. Just enter you URL into the box found here: fed.brid.gy/

That's it to get a basic presence than can be followed.

You can add more comprehensive functionality as well. See docs: fed.brid.gy/docs#web-get-start

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@ilyess bsky.social/about/bluesky-and- discusses Bluesky's approach to federation. A key difference is that their AT Protocol it's a protocol for public conversations. There isn't any direct analogy of a fediverse instance (although a AppView is instance-like). One key improvement over today's AP implementations are that the storage layer is separate so you can in principle host your own data (although it's still kind of janky, and only a few hundred people do) and perhaps at some point hosting services will emerge. berjon.com/ap-at/ looks at how AP could be implemented on top of AT

@hallenbeck

@ilyess BS uses a different protocol (called AT) so the only way it can federate with the rest of the Fediverse is via some kind of bridge service.

@oblomov Thanks. I was more curious about federation within Bluesky’s ecosystem, as opposed to Bluesky and the fediverse.